Beyond the Cusp

September 30, 2018

We Have a Question and a Statement for President Trump

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But be assured, it will end with a question mark and a simple ‘Yes’ or ‘No’ will not suffice as an answer. The initial part of our multi-subject question concerns the demands from Palestinian spokespeople from such corridors as their closed PLO office in Washington D.C. where Husam Zomlot as head of the recently-closed PLO mission in Washington told AFC, “Their words go against their actions and their action is absolutely clear, is destroying the possibility of the two-state solution.” He also commented, with anything stated telepathically in italics, that anything the President says is insufficient in bringing the Palestinians back to the negotiating table. Please allow us to translate that from Palestinian to normative language for the uninitiated, We Palestinians will not negotiate for even a single instant that a photo-op takes without ‘Yuge’ (they also speak Trumpeze) bribes in the form of land, released terrorists and promises which we know the Israelis, those Jews, will keep because they are fools, and then we will come for a quick photo-op because then you as President will have your moment in the sun and will have forced the Jews to pay for it. We will never surrender from our position of a one-Arab-state-solution. The Jews can stay because we will require slaves to keep the money flowing but when they are no longer prosperous enough for our likings, then we will need people to blame and execute as executions make the public happy. He kept much of his statement as a silent one in his head, but he had to at least think it so as to claim that he had warned everyone this would happen afterwards when they claim he mislead the world. You see, with Taqiyyah, you can have something said in some odd manner, including saying it in your head, and then claim that you communicated it to President Trump and it is not your fault he is cranially inadequate to have understood what you told him telepathically at the time when you met at the United Nations. 

 

The Palestinians have a unique form of making deals with the uneducated imbeciles from the United States. They understand the more sophisticated means of Arab Islamic negotiations where those who wish to talk must first be too strong for you to defeat one-on-one. Then one always begins the negotiations from the very first word. Then the negotiations go through the following stages, pre-negotiating where the non-Islamic side is required to make a series of painful and ever escalating concessions; they plan on having more negotiations after these fail, that is crucial to their method, until it becomes obvious that we have gone too far and are now testing your patience, which we have found to be quite tolerant even of insults. Once we have the concessions part met and agreed upon, but with nothing in writing; this way we could have claimed that during negotiations we will accept this or promised to do that and can, as it was not in writing, claim these things were never agreed upon and that as Arab and Islamic we are very sad you lacked the proper understanding, namely that you give, we promise and never deliver, you give some more because you brought that up and now we feel insulted that you were cheating and we need to be soothed for the insult that you would think so of our actions and not just accept that we are superior. Finally, after a few added rounds of having you, President Trump, squeeze everything and a few additional goodies from Israel, now we can have that nice lunch on the White House lawn with a nice lamb served up from a Halal caterer and then a quick photo-op and run as we did not realize it was so late, sorry, have to sign it another day in Jerusalem, our side of Jerusalem, oh, and add that to the promises. Then President Trump will try to move forward and find that he is back at square one and they are demanding that Israel must be forced to provide a new set of goodies. As to the question of what they really want, that is simple and does not even require that a Palestinian Arab nation be formed, it just requires that Israel be destroyed, the Jews do not get to have their own country because they are Jews and then the Jews who failed to get out in time will be ours to do with as we please resulting eventually in their public executions. Theirs is a different view of the world and threats to their way of life and seeing the world, which is depicted by the map shown in the picture below.

 

How the Arab and Core Muslims See the World and Israel (our appreciation to <a href=edgar1981.blogspot.co.il target=blank>Edgar</a>)
How the Arab and Core Muslims See the World and Israel
(our appreciation to Edgar)

 

The Islamic and, coincidentally, the Arab viewpoint of any negotiations are simply to provide the schedule for the complete surrender of the lands the Zionist stole from the superior Islamic forces when they destroyed a nation which has never existed as anything more than the Roman name given the area of Judea and Samaria after their defeat of the Jews over five hundred years before Islam ever existed. This defeat of the Jews became necessary as the Judeans had overthrown Roman Rule and as such had to be destroyed Roman style. They employed the exact same dispersion as had removed the Carthaginians from world memory except for the history of their three glorious but in the end unfruitful wars with Rome, the Three Punic Wars. The Jews had a similar history with Rome which was the reason for their receiving the presumed culture killing dispersion. I realize that there are not a huge number of Jews left in the world, as we have suffered some other little problems with some along the same scale and a few worse as the Roman dispersion punishment leaving us to be less than 0.2% of the world’s population, but we are willing to bet more people reading this have met a Jew than have met a Carthaginian. In this region, the Arabs had been replaced by the European rulers after World War I. This led to the Colonial Powers imposing borders, randomly drawn and resulting in maximum chaos. That is exactly what we see breaking down virtually everywhere across the Arab world from Iraq to Libya. Much of it surrounding Israel was put into motion by, yes, by the French and the British whose two diplomats drew up the region to promote the necessity of a strong-man type leader with a map drawn by Mark Sykes and François Georges-Picot who drew up the Sykes–Picot Agreement creating the French and British Mandates (see map below). This agreement was drawn up in Paris and London with little if any consultations with the commanders in the field and with no regard to any promises or arrangements which were made to win people to the Allied effort. One of the biggest swindles was the exclusion of Kurdistan which had been promised by a British officer who, to his credit, was quite put out, as the British might say at that time, and he took his complaint to the Defense Ministry and was informed that politics had become settled and nothing could be done. The politics was know later to be what became British Petroleum, then Getty Oil, and the Mosul oil fields which were generously leased to them by the King of Iraq who the British had just installed. This map eventually resulted in 78% of the British Mandate after Iraq has been formed, went to the Arabs such that the other son from King Faisal would also be granted a kingdom. This left 22% for the Jewish State with a border between the two of the Jordan River, the one time the British actually took the lay of the land into consideration. When you hear Mahmoud Abbas claiming that he is only asking for 22% of the land, he means the 22% of the British Mandate which was not Jordan. He is demanding to be given all of Israel, not some percentage of Israel, and this is a very important and vital fact which all politicians must understand if they are to understand anything.

 

Sykes Picot map with gives Mandate National Order for Founding

Sykes Picot map with gives Mandate National Order for Founding

 

When Abbas and the rest of his crew of ‘individuals,’ and we are using that term individuals in the loosest of senses, refer to the area they require be granted them include all of Israel. They feel this is fair because they conquered this region long ago and that makes it Islamic forever, the Quran says so, and that ends the discussion. Well, apparently Mahmoud Abbas has found a plan he would actually accept as long as one additional condition is met. The deal Abbas heard was for an autonomous region where the Palestinian Arabs residing in the Shomron would be granted Jordanian citizenship and could either move to Jordan and receive a brand new apartment with a job at a local factory and possibly an incentive to ease the cost and strain of moving. These companies will be producing goods which are sold in the United States and are imported without any duty or other taxes by the United States, Egypt or Jordan. These will be communities build around these factories which are part of a program calling to build a Qualifying Industrial Zone (QIZ) where an Israeli company is granted this advantage access to the United States markets as they provide jobs for Jordanian and Egyptian citizens. There is thought of expanding this program which works to the benefit of Israel, Jordan, Egypt and the American consumer who receives a better price for these items. This will give Palestinian Arabs from both the Shomron, close to Jordan, and Gaza, close to Egypt, to be able to easily take advantage of these programs, new good paying jobs and new apartments. You can call it a bribe, an incentive, an enticement or even a buy-out, but it is the kind of offer which might just be too much to pass up. When this leaked that there was a plan which would combine the population of the Palestinian Arabs in the Shomron with Jordan, as Abbas cares even less about the Arabs in Gaza so their getting to do this same deal with Egypt was of no consequence to him, Abbas stated he thought that it was a great idea which had not been taken to its natural limit. We discussed this as part of the closing of the PLO office in Washington article from about a week and a half back. Abbas says that this is a great idea as long as all the “refugees” are included and also Israel is made a part of this super-state. What would such a nation be called? It might be Holocaust II or twenty-two-million wolves and seven-million sheep discussing the dinner menu. It is far too easy to see why suddenly the idea of uniting the Arabs being altered just slightly to reunite all the lands from the British Mandate, and add in the darlings of the world, the five-million Palestinian Refugees, the only refugees who pass their status from parents to children at birth, and then stir briskly and see how things turn out. We are sure that Mahmoud Abbas also would demand that the IDF be disbanded and the Jordanian Military be tasked with security.

 

The only thing puzzling us here at BTC is exactly how long is it going to take before President Trump realizes beyond any doubt that the only peace any of the Arabs are willing to accept is the one where there is no Israel, the Jews have no power over the land or their rights and the Jews are made their Dhimmis exactly as demanded by the Quran. And while President Trump is working to digest that, perhaps he should be warned that the Islamic World also demands that Andalusia be returned to them as it was stolen by the Church back around 1492, and despite the obvious coincidence, it has nothing to do with Columbus and everything to do with much of Spain and the whole Iberian Peninsula. The Arabs actually agree with many of the European leadership and high placed individuals in that the Jews rightful place is subjugated with little if any rights and providing a service to the community and also providing a target for blame whenever any calamity strikes from a plague to the flu or an economic downturn or a surprise where elections went differently than predicted or anything else which can be simply blamed away as the Jews did ‘it’ and now they must pay. This type of treatment was very much the way in much of Europe from around the third century BCE and spread rapidly across the Middle East and then across Northern Africa and down the Nile River covering a region often referred to as MENA. This was the Caliphate at near its greatest expanse which reached across the Iberian Peninsula where the Islamic conquests were turned back at the Battle of Tours where Charles the Hammer Martel defeated their army and they retreated back into Spain where they were later expelled along with most of the Jews during the Spanish Inquisition. The Islamic world was little different as the Jews, along with Christians, were considered Dhimmi, a protected class of citizen who is without legal rights and who can be required to pay a special Jiyza Tax to remain a protected people as “People of the Book.” In both Christian Europe, after the Reformation, things remained pretty much the same as both Catholics under the Pope and the Protestants under their various leaderships, both treated the Jews with some degree of disdain, and the Islamic World there were times when Jews were treated quite well as they provided services which were necessary or the community was in a period where there was wealth and things were quite good, and when things were less wonderful, the Jews were treated less wonderfully. Whenever either the Christians or the Muslims entered a more fanatical or religiously fevered period, then the Jews could expect to face major difficulties. These rejections have had their greatest effect since the start of World War II in Europe and the aftermath in the Islamic World.

 

 

Europe murdered six million Jews amongst the nearly thirteen million murdered in the Concentration Camps and through simple executions in the field where in many Polish towns the Nazis simply marched the Jews out of town a distance into the surrounding forest, had the Jews dig a fairly large ditch and then shot them pushing the bodies into the ditch. Under Islam the form of killing the Jews was usually beheading as this was the method the Prophet Muhammad used when he beheaded around nine-hundred men, women and children but mostly men of the Qurayza Tribe of Jews. Thus, when the Muslims decided that the Jews required to be taught lessons, they would behead a selected group, often largely from the leadership, this would make the replacement leadership far more pliable as they realized the threat and acted cautiously. This meant that in Europe the Jews often fled from one nation where things had turned against them to another where treatment was better. Under the Muslims, moving would not often be an option as your tribe often had roots which predated the conquest by Islam and moving just did not appeal as you were either ruled by the Caliphate to the Ottoman Empire wherever you were located, thus the treatment was relatively consistent. The misconception that the Jews were treated horribly in Europe and gloriously by the Muslims is a false history as both the Christians and the Muslims believed that the Jews were a form of evil people who had betrayed Hashem and had been replaced as the Chosen People; in Europe the Christians were the replacement and in the Islamic world Islam had replaced the Jews.

 

After World War II, many Jews learned that returning to their previous homes and towns would often result in their being murdered by their former townsfolk because after they were removed by the Nazis, some of the townsfolk had taken their home and others their workplaces and they no longer had a place in their former home towns. This was why so many Jews ended up in relocation camps, sometimes these camps were the same camps used by the Nazis. The British, through simply falling to Arab demands, as the Arabs could cause far more trouble than the Jews could being there were more Arabs than Jews in what would become Israel, limited Jewish immigration to what was to become Israel and kept the vast majority in the camps back in Europe and on Cyprus. After Israel declared her independence, then the European Jews were freed to immigrate, which they did, coming into a war zone where there were six Arab armies plus militias attempting to destroy Israel in her cradle. The Arabs succeeded in taking land from what was promised to become the Jewish State with Egypt holding Gaza and Jordan holding parts of the Shomron which they renamed West Bank and forced numbers of Jordanians to relocate into these illegally held lands; those were the original setters, Jordanian Arabs forcibly relocated to prevent Jews from their lands. After the initial war of 1948-9 finally ended, then came the second wave of Jews in a steady stream from the Arab and Muslim world as the nations of MENA forced their Jews from their homes and with almost all of them having nowhere to go as the world still refused to take in Jews, the vast majority made their way to Israel and they were taken in and accepted into Israeli society, all eight-hundred-thousand plus of them. This made Israel a true mix of the Jews from both the Christian world in Europe and the Muslim world of the MENA states. This gave Israel an almost equal balance between the two main regions of Jewish society. So, that was the framework which gave birth to Israel. There have been a number of wars and conflicts forced upon Israel and Israel has saved the world from facing Saddam Hussein with nuclear weapons and Bashir al-Assad from having nuclear weapons. Now there are those claiming that Israel will prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons; so the world need not worry about them. What if it is already too late?

 

President Trump, have you ever heard of the Khartoum Resolution? It was the declaration of the “Three No’s:” “no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel.” About the only thing they left out was their reasoning; they believed that the world would eventually simply destroy Israel by some means for them, thus their dream of “No Israel.” That is the only solution that the Arab and much of the Muslim worlds will accept, the complete and total destruction of the Jewish State and no replacement or alternate location, the Jews must be brought low again. This is their single demand and unless that is included in the deal, then there can be no deal. It is that simple President Trump, if you want a deal, then simply destroy Israel and get the Jews to accept their inferiority and subjection to Islam and then things will work out just fine. No Israel will soon mean no Jews and that would fit their natural order of the way the world should be. Of course their demands do not end with the Jews, oh no! Their Quran and the Hadiths tell them how they are the chosen by Allah to rule the entire world and that all will bow to Allah. There can be no other result according to their holy books and what their Imams teach them. Islam will rule the world and there will be a single form of Islam accepted around the world. Of course, which version of Islam will prove to be the only one in the world had not yet been decided, and this conflict is killing more Muslims around the world than Israel could ever kill. The number one groups of people killing the believers of Islam are other believers of Islam. As you well know, Mr. President, there are forces of Muslims prepared to murder hundreds of thousands of other Muslims in Syria as this is being posted without a single Jews involved what-so-ever. Yet, the lie the Islamic faithful keep trying to infuse into the world is if only Israel was erased and the Jews all subjugated, then the entirety of the Middle East and North Africa would be at peace. This is as far from the reality as one can get. The Muslims have been killing Muslims almost forever as stated by T. E. Lawrence (aka Lawrence of Arabia) “Sherif Ali, so long as the Arabs fight tribe against tribe, so long will they be a little people, a silly people, greedy, barbarous, and cruel as you are.” Their refusal to accept the existence of a Jewish nation is just as much about their injured pride in losing conflict after conflict with Israel and being unable to destroy this obviously inferior nation of nonbelievers is simply another version of what Lawrence saw as their largest challenge. As the old saying goes, some things just never change. As long as the Arab and Muslim world see everything as an absolute and that only their maximalist demands are rational and all else is against the will of Allah, then there will be no peace. The problem is with Israel in the Arab mind and that problem is that Israel exists and remains the Jewish State. As might be stated in an old movie, if only it was something other than the Jewish State, the problem is actually that it is not a Muslim state and specifically, and Arab Muslim State as that is the perfect desire of Allah. So, President Trump, whatever your plan which you expect to unfurl and have it receive applause all around, that is not possible as long as your plan does not address their biggest problem, the existence of Israel as the Jewish State. So, how will your ‘Deal of the Century’ get around the, make Israel disappear, demand from Abbas as well as Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and all the rest? Even if the Jews were placed in a starship and it was reported ten years hence that they had found and were colonizing a planet around Alpha Centauri Group, there would be an Imam somewhere who would claim that Allah had granted the Muslims with the right to that planet and would demand that the United Nations remove them so the true owners, the Centaurian Muslims, could be taken there to settle their rightful home-world and as thanks to the Jews for finding their long lost world, well, they can serve as the original Dhimmi class in that world. This is the kind of fanaticism which you are facing, President Trump, and we do not envy your task. Perhaps this will serve as the task too far of all your campaign claims and promises, and nobody should hold the lack of a workable peace for Israel and her neighbors; we are sure you are going to give it your best shot and even when it fails, we can ask nothing more. We only hope you will not make the mistake of demanding that Israel sacrifice even more for nothing in return. We have played that game a few too many times. We should have learned immediately after the Oslo Accords, or at Madrid or Camp David or Paris or after Ehud Barak gave Arafat everything he told President Clinton was necessary and then Arafat walked out, or after Ehud Olmert offered another unbelievable deal which we told Israelis not to worry, the Arabs will refuse the deal as they did as it left Israel standing, though barely. The Arabs will only accept Israel destroyed, and the United States is not yet ready to do that, and that is why there cannot be any peace. The problem is all Israel because she demands to exist and the Arabs refuse to take that as part of any solution.

 

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